And one more comment. Tachout knows this. This thought isn't directed at him. The title of this thread is: "who knows these things real well. Cannot get it to print" This is why it is so helpful to build your printer as a kit. You really do get to know your printer. There is always pain bringing up and getting comfortable with a new printer. But at the end of the process you know your printer and can work through the issues. This is kind of the opposite. Techout isn't ready to divorce his printer and he wants some counseling.