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    as long as you can get it at the discounted price.
    the final retail price is way too high.
    There are plenty of better printers in the $3000 price range. AT the pricepoint - as long as you ignore makerbot and ultimaker - you're getting into the light industrial zone, and some amazing machines in that price range.

    All enclosed printers will print nylon, abs etc.

    And pretty much all current printers will also print flexibles.

    But for the $1800 ish price it's a decent buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curious aardvark View Post
    as long as you can get it at the discounted price.
    the final retail price is way too high.
    There are plenty of better printers in the $3000 price range. AT the pricepoint - as long as you ignore makerbot and ultimaker - you're getting into the light industrial zone, and some amazing machines in that price range.

    All enclosed printers will print nylon, abs etc.

    And pretty much all current printers will also print flexibles.

    But for the $1800 ish price it's a decent buy.
    OK Enclosed metal frame, dual extruder (easily removable), heated removable bed, uses any filament, color touchscreen, camera, auto bed leveling, wifi, and filament sensors.
    Please list some other under $3000 3d printers with these features. I haven't found many, if any.

    If you give up the enclosed frame, then a few are available, but I'd really like the enclosed frame, for sound, smell, and because in AZ the AC is almost always going which is not great for ABS, so an enclosure is mandatory. I also thought it would be easy to find this, but it really hasn't been, at least in an "industrial" type design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ano View Post
    OK Enclosed metal frame, dual extruder (easily removable), heated removable bed, uses any filament, color touchscreen, camera, auto bed leveling, wifi, and filament sensors.
    Please list some other under $3000 3d printers with these features. I haven't found many, if any.

    If you give up the enclosed frame, then a few are available, but I'd really like the enclosed frame, for sound, smell, and because in AZ the AC is almost always going which is not great for ABS, so an enclosure is mandatory. I also thought it would be easy to find this, but it really hasn't been, at least in an "industrial" type design.

    The printer has a lot of nice things going for it... solid steel frame, E3D extruder and hotends/nozzles, auto-levelling, fully enclosed with air filtration system, transparent so it's easy to see what it doing (like in classrooms), and what I like best, the airtight cartridges to hold the filament spools (at least if you use their filament, although it can use other filaments from any brand too, it says), so that they don't absorb humidity. Given that it's a dual extruder printer meant for using PVA, this seems to be a key feature! I don't know if it's overpriced, but I don't see many other printers at 3k that are better either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kikailabs View Post
    The printer has a lot of nice things going for it... solid steel frame, E3D extruder and hotends/nozzles, auto-levelling, fully enclosed with air filtration system, transparent so it's easy to see what it doing (like in classrooms), and what I like best, the airtight cartridges to hold the filament spools (at least if you use their filament, although it can use other filaments from any brand too, it says), so that they don't absorb humidity. Given that it's a dual extruder printer meant for using PVA, this seems to be a key feature! I don't know if it's overpriced, but I don't see many other printers at 3k that are better either.
    Kodak has announced a variety of filaments that presumably work with the printer. These include PLA, ABS, FLEX 98, Nylon 6 & 12, and HIPS, which is a good range. Its not noted, but this likely means the extrude goes to at least 260C.

    The real complex part that I'm hoping this printer can solve is every material not only has a set build plate and extruder temperature, but also an ideal Z-height, fan speeds and build speeds. Hopefully this printer can learn these for various materials, which would be fantastic.

    The special price (a 35% discount) is only good til they sell 500, and they are saying less than 100 less.

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