First timer purchasing 3D printer

[curious aardvark]

on the contrary - making people aware of the flaws or benefits of a particular way of building or doing something - always helps.

Yes the crealituy machiunes work.
Or even people like you would not buy them.

Could they work better - absolutely.
With the original prusa design could they print better quality, faster ?
Absolutely.

Are there people in the world who use their 3d printers for making practical items, and don't want to spend 30 hours printin g a basic model ?
People who sell the items they make - where time =cost=profit ?
Or who use their printers for commercial purposes and have time constraints ?
Absolutely. Most people in fact.
Should they know about the printers they can buy and the advantages and disadvantages of the different designs and models ?
Definitely.

So what - apart from personal pique - is your actual objection to explaining to people why different printers work differently ?

Nobody pays me to recommend their printers. I own two deltas, two rep clones a dirt cheap i3 and a corexy printer.
I have upgraded, dismantled and built them all.
I have been going to the largest 3d computer show in europe since it's conception and seen a massive variety of machines and talked to the designers and manufacturers.

I am not some trendy youtuber getting paid to extoll the virtues of whatever kit they get sent for free.

I make nothing up, the vast majority of advice is based on trial and error and personal experience.

So I'm wondering who is paying you ?

Nobody jumped on me when I was pointing out the flaws in the 5th gen makerbots.
Or that ultimakers are almost unchanged from heir original design - but cost ridiculous amounts of money for what you actually get.

So why is it that as soon as someone starts pointing out the FACTUAL design flaws in many creality machines, that people like you crawl out of the woodwork - and without any practical and sensible objections refuse to see reality ?
Hmm - weird eh ?

[TreeTolber]

Thanks for all the input everyone!

So the Prusa MK3 is way out of my price range but the original i3 is in my budget.

Is that probably the best for a first printer?

[686 Shooter]

Thanks for all the input everyone!

So the Prusa MK3 is way out of my price range but the original i3 is in my budget.

Is that probably the best for a first printer?

The i3 would make a great first printer. Watch some Youtube videos so you can learn the nuances of getting the bed level and you will be good to go.

Enjoy. 3D printing is a blast!

[686 Shooter]

on the contrary - making people aware of the flaws or benefits of a particular way of building or doing something - always helps.

Yes the crealituy machiunes work.
Or even people like you would not buy them.

Could they work better - absolutely.
With the original prusa design could they print better quality, faster ?
Absolutely.

Are there people in the world who use their 3d printers for making practical items, and don't want to spend 30 hours printin g a basic model ?
People who sell the items they make - where time =cost=profit ?
Or who use their printers for commercial purposes and have time constraints ?
Absolutely. Most people in fact.
Should they know about the printers they can buy and the advantages and disadvantages of the different designs and models ?
Definitely.

So what - apart from personal pique - is your actual objection to explaining to people why different printers work differently ?

Nobody pays me to recommend their printers. I own two deltas, two rep clones a dirt cheap i3 and a corexy printer.
I have upgraded, dismantled and built them all.
I have been going to the largest 3d computer show in europe since it's conception and seen a massive variety of machines and talked to the designers and manufacturers.

I am not some trendy youtuber getting paid to extoll the virtues of whatever kit they get sent for free.

I make nothing up, the vast majority of advice is based on trial and error and personal experience.

So I'm wondering who is paying you ?

Nobody jumped on me when I was pointing out the flaws in the 5th gen makerbots.
Or that ultimakers are almost unchanged from heir original design - but cost ridiculous amounts of money for what you actually get.

So why is it that as soon as someone starts pointing out the FACTUAL design flaws in many creality machines, that people like you crawl out of the woodwork - and without any practical and sensible objections refuse to see reality ?
Hmm - weird eh ?

No one is paying me. I'm just calling out someone who thinks he is more of an expert than he really is. And I will continue to do this so new people on here will know what you are about. Once you start being realistic I will stop.

And your comment about seeing reality? The reality is obvious. You suffer from an issue where you need to try to make yourself feel superior to others. You're an accomplished engineer (apparently) and your opinion is the word of God. Anyone who disagrees is wrong. Even if that is thousands of people. This need for superiority perfectly explains your "Super Moderator" title as well as the majority of your posts where you rehash the same arguments over and over to prove your superior knowledge. It is fairly common to see folks with this issue on the internet. I would strongly recommend speaking to a therapist.

Stop the BS and I will stop calling you out on it.

[Grazuncle]

I only popped over here because of an email that a post was updated.. I see it is still the same Ender bashing. I stopped coming here because it is a pretty uncomfortable place for anyone owning anything Creality. If you already have bought one you will get little help apart from direction to buy something else... As seen in this thread. Glad someone had the b***a to react to it...
I wonder if the board owners know, or care.. Or certain ones 'are' the owners of it?

Thanks.
Bye..

[686 Shooter]

I only popped over here because of an email that a post was updated.. I see it is still the same Ender bashing. I stopped coming here because it is a pretty uncomfortable place for anyone owning anything Creality. If you already have bought one you will get little help apart from direction to buy something else... As seen in this thread. Glad someone had the b***a to react to it...
I wonder if the board owners know, or care.. Or certain ones 'are' the owners of it?

Thanks.
Bye..

Its a shame that you don't come her anymore. But I can see why you don't and I'm sure there are a lot of others that have left as well. It's really too bad because this could be a great forum.