Hmmmm, I have never even heard of the guider. It seems like the big improvement with that machine is the extra 3 or so inches on the y axis for build space.

This clone (of a clone) seems like it could be a pretty decent deal. I will say that I purchased a refurbished FFCP here in the US direct from flashforge for only 800, which was a steal for me. They have bumped the price back up to 880, but even that is pretty good. Can you get refurbs direct from FF in australia?

Also, just out of curiousity Geoff, you have a whole number of printers and I am wondering what printers you are currently working with. I plan on purchasing at least one more to increase my workflow and would be interested in knowing what you work with. Any experience with delta printers like the Rostock Max?