Another source of cheap machines in Walmart.com, yes I said walmart. You want to look at the refurbed machines. Wife needed a replacement and we got one there for $150 with win7 installed. Granted it will be what ever is the current flavor of windows (8.1?). Think about it. Win 7 at the time was retailing at $99, so they made about $51 on the parts. Dam cheap in my book.