yeah, and none are much less expensive. I have seen some new ones that launched recently but I want to buy a printer that is a bit more established, where if I have a problem I can contact more people about it and I feel I would have an easier time getting a solution. and the release time is also an issue, I am starting a business and I would like to have the printer ASAP and it takes about 7 weeks for the form 1 to ship (tho I might be able to get it a bit quicker).