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09-24-2016, 10:09 AM #1
Were you heating the bed too, or just the hot end?
Do you have a print cooling fan that is set in the slicer to kick in at say, layer 2?
I'm just wondering about a possible thermal runaway situation. The OEM builds from MakerFarm at least up to some point had thermal runaway detection disabled. There was a thread here some months ago where an early adopter of the revamped Marlin started getting thermal runaway errors when he upgraded to it. It turned out that at least as of that build, the default was for thermal runaway detection to be enabled. If I recall, that problem was with the heated bed - it would heat up OK but then in the print the bed temp would drop off just enough and for a long enough period to trip the thermal runaway condition that shuts down the print. I imagine the same thing could happen with the hot end if too much print cooling airflow is applied after the hot end is at temp and the heater can't keep up with it.
EDIT: Reading tsteever's latest post that came in while I was typing, this sounds like a real possibility
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09-24-2016, 05:06 PM #2
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09-24-2016, 08:12 PM #3
We are near the end of RC-7. I'm not sure that I remember any thermal issues in RC-7. I do remember some issues in RC-6.
The only thing concerning thermal issues lately is this thread speculating there may be a bug in the way the PID algorithm works:
https://github.com/MarlinFirmware/Marlin/issues/4881
If you are having problems with your heaters doing the right thing, please let us know!!!
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09-24-2016, 11:28 PM #4
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So far my only problems have been with the print bed heater, and I (think I) have it on a bang-bang setup, not PID. I have my bed heater connected through a relay, so I don't think PID or PWM would be a good option. The issue is somewhat rare, though. Maybe only once in 7-8 prints.
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09-23-2016, 02:42 PM #5
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What exactly do those commands do?
I have the eeprom disabled
//#define EEPROM_SETTINGS
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09-24-2016, 10:19 AM #6
FWIW, here is that earlier thread. The thermal runaway part of the thread starts at post #19.
About to try Marlin1.1.0RC4...
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09-24-2016, 11:01 AM #7
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Hi
Based on a disaster that happened here over the last few days:
If the fan shroud on the e3d is damaged, it will dump a bunch of air onto the heated block. The PWM will go to 100% and it will struggle to hold temperature on the hot end. It *will* hang out long enough in this state to trigger "thermal runaway" with the stock settings. The problem will be made worse if you have a bum connection in the heater circuit or if the heater cartridge is loose in the block. A loose thermistor mounting screw would do similar things.
Simple check:
Don't try to print anything. Having stuff moving around is confusing.
Fire up the heated bed and make sure the PWM goes into blink mode (LED blinks vs full on, I watch the one on my SSR)
Check the power supply is at 12V or more
Fire up the hot end (heated bed still on) and make sure the LED goes into blink mode for it.
Check the power supply is still at 12V or more
The fans cooling the e3d must be on any time it is on, so they are already running.
Turn on any other fans you have
Watch the PWM and /or temperature
Check the power supply
Somewhere along in there you should find the problem, if not:
Start giggling wires. You likely have a loose / broken connection.
Bob
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09-23-2016, 02:45 PM #8
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09-23-2016, 03:57 PM #9
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09-23-2016, 08:53 PM #10
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Man, not sure I should have opened this can of worms. It was working fine before.
I went to check the servo angles and now it won't home. I am getting the following error...
Error:MINTEMP triggered, system stopped! Heater_ID: 0
Error:Printer halted. kill() called!
10 minutes later and i can get it to home but now Octoprint won't connect!
Error: volume.init failedLast edited by tsteever; 09-23-2016 at 09:26 PM.
Please explain to me how to...
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