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    Super Moderator curious aardvark's Avatar
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    People who want a gun, are going to get a gun.
    In AMERICA !
    In the rest of the world, not so much.

    However, you can build a much better, more reliable, more accurate gun that has the same traceability with some simple hobby mills.
    You might be able to.
    the vast majority of the human race - not so much.
    Plus a3d printer can cost as little as $300 - a full on metal work shop and a few years learning how to use it. Way more.

    3d printed plastic parts can be made by ANYONE, well anyone who's prepared to learn how to use a gluestick and blue painters tape :-)
    There is almost no skill required.
    There is no comparison.

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    What about this design "intrinsically has 'illicit use' all over it"? Are you looking at the simple fact that it is made in plastic? The fact that it can fire .22LR rounds? Maybe it is the coloring? Anything can be misused and there is nothing in it's intrinsic qualities that makes it only for one purpose. You see a scary, bad person, gun. Others see a well thought out mechanical design. It is neither good nor evil on it's own.

    There are legitimate uses for firearms that are neither bad nor nefarious. Hopefully you never experience any of those circumstances first hand.

    Keep up the good work WarFairy. You need to move to a more friendly location so you can actually do the testing as well.

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    There are legitimate uses for firearms that are neither bad nor nefarious.
    true - but not for an inaccurate easily concealed HANDGUN that fires 22 long rounds.

    Guns are useful tools - handguns - not so much. Plastic untraceable hand guns - yeah, only two uses really.
    1) plinking in your back yard.
    2) criminal purposes.

    Given that handguns - in general - are illegal in most countries anyway (america is JUST 1 COUNTRY - no matter how many times you slap the word 'world' in front of a purely american event, it doesn't make it so)
    What it could be used for is a moot point. Just having the .stl files on a computer would be enough to be prosecuted in the uk.
    And much as I'd like to make one, just for the sake of it. I'm not stupid enough to think the .stl downloads aren't being tracked by GCHQ.

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    As someone who enjoys shooting (targets not people), I hope I never, ever have to pull the trigger in defense of my family.

    I see both side to the argument about 3d printed guns. Now, I see no issue with someone designing them and printing them, it is the person holding the gun that is responsible, not the maker, designer, seller, etc. (and I mean legal, not illegal). Argument that it can be used to kill people - sure it could but so can that printed knife - which by the way is actually easier to hide as you can print it with no metal parts.

    People say that it is immoral or unethical to publish / design - whatever for the gun. Yes, it is illegal in some countries but then again so is pornography. A design / print of a naked woman, body part, etc. would be illegal in many countries (I've been to them) - Warfairy lives in one. How many would argue that posting a print file for a naked woman is immoral or unethical? Can't hurt anyone with it (I guess you could but would be harder) but there are still issues with having it in many areas. Sadly in the US, this would more likely cause legislation for 3d printers than guns (we are backwards in some ways).

    In the end, if someone wants to get a gun, knife they are going to be able to get one. It doesn't matter how. If they want all they really need is a metal tube, nail, and a hammer (might not be accurate but it will work).

    Posting the design doesn't matter. Someone that wants can now take pictures of parts, turn them into a model and print. Might take a little trial and error but I'm sure there are plenty that could make a working gun that way.

    Enough rambling. People all over the world just need to get back to respecting each other, there is too much hate.

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    I know im bringing up a 2 year old thread but im wondering what happened to this gun? Are the plans downloadable somewhere?

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