I see, thanks for the information, I think I am going to go with the creator pro. I guess the dreamer leveling is similar to the creator pro, any experience with that? I am quite tired of getting large raftless printings with difficulty due the leveling (my wooden makerbot can't just handle more precision, I have tested it: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:28135 :/ so I need something with a more solid base)