Looking for a new 3d printer

[AutoWiz]

AutoWiz sounds like a wild card when it comes to how much it will cost.Which one you likehttps://www.amazon.com/s?k=corexy&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

I thought I was very clear in my quote for 'a whole lot of money', lol. But you did say $2k budget. And I can build that. I mean we will still have my labor to deal with over and above that but I could put 2k into a rig without breaking a sweat. I mean we could put a grand into rails, half that into an extruder and that same amount again into a good frame and thats 2k right there. I am a little over 3k into the Multi Widow. It is a good feeling owning and using a high dollar rig. In this crazy world where so many think their skills or wit can somehow trump a poorly made cloned part the actual reality is these printers are no better than the sum of their parts and a lot of people don't seem to understand that poor quality metals rust easier and faster and that rust pits the metal bearing surface. It's not always a matter of grinding on this or that the cheap stuff is all around cheap. Even with the very materials it is made from. And every company that manufacturers these printers does so with the absolutely lowest price parts they can source which both keeps the price down and also keeps them from seeing the reliability they need to break into the land of mainstream. To buy any off the shelf printer is to scrape the bottom of the barrel in the land of 3d printing just for this reason. And it is also why the best machines you will see are the ones built by enthusiasts like me.

[cf_pro]

I thought I was very clear in my quote for 'a whole lot of money', lol. But you did say $2k budget. And I can build that. I mean we will still have my labor to deal with over and above that but I could put 2k into a rig without breaking a sweat. I mean we could put a grand into rails, half that into an extruder and that same amount again into a good frame and thats 2k right there. I am a little over 3k into the Multi Widow. It is a good feeling owning and using a high dollar rig. In this crazy world where so many think their skills or wit can somehow trump a poorly made cloned part the actual reality is these printers are no better than the sum of their parts and a lot of people don't seem to understand that poor quality metals rust easier and faster and that rust pits the metal bearing surface. It's not always a matter of grinding on this or that the cheap stuff is all around cheap. Even with the very materials it is made from. And every company that manufacturers these printers does so with the absolutely lowest price parts they can source which both keeps the price down and also keeps them from seeing the reliability they need to break into the land of mainstream. To buy any off the shelf printer is to scrape the bottom of the barrel in the land of 3d printing just for this reason. And it is also why the best machines you will see are the ones built by enthusiasts like me.

Sounds like I would be going over my budget of $2k and I am not sure if I would get support.

[curious aardvark]

the x5sa PRO.
https://www.amazon.com/Printer-Struc...011088&sr=8-10
Upgraded linear rails from the non pro.
In fact a lot of other little, but significant upgrades as well.
Plus it's pretty much bang on your size requirements.

lol I suspect if you gave autowiz a fixed budget. He would stick to it rigidly.
You probably wouldn't get any change, but you would get the absolute best parts that could be got in that price range.
Built by a man who REALLY understands how 3d printers work :-)

[cf_pro]

I am a total newb, this will be my 1st stab at this. I figure I ask the pros on which printer to get. Not sure if I am ready for a custom build. Based on my experience in dealing with hardware I would assume I would be dealing with lots of little issue that could end up killing my time. I rather get something prebuilt that has a support staff in case I run into something.

[AutoWiz]

It's also great to finally hear an answer as to why these 3d printers have fallen short of mainstream, right? Why it is that they never became the new microwave oven in every home. Because microwaves are easy to use and reliable and do not have a record of setting homes on fire.

[cf_pro]

For a 3d printer to become mainstream it has to have the following features:- Fast- Select object from menu (dynamically updated via cloud) and hit print

[cf_pro]

Also add the ability to print in multi-color.Have useful items to print, the ability to scan in a SKU code, and it shows all the parts it can print for replacement. Also have the ability to print things you can use around the house.It should be able to print metal and plastic.Let's say you want to print a roomba, it should print all the parts, and then it automatically orders things that cant be printed and then it prints out directions of how to put all the pieces together.

[AutoWiz]

Also add the ability to print in multi-color.Have useful items to print, the ability to scan in a SKU code, and it shows all the parts it can print for replacement. Also have the ability to print things you can use around the house.It should be able to print metal and plastic.Let's say you want to print a roomba, it should print all the parts, and then it automatically orders things that cant be printed and then it prints out directions of how to put all the pieces together.

Spoken like a true enthusiast. On your way into this hobby you should spend some time considering and then understanding why all of these printers come unassembled. If the printer came ready to print and you just opened the box and started printing the expectations of quality would be as such that there would be an absolutely huge return/warranty rate. But to sell and ship them completely unassembled creates a plausible deniability where the manufacturer can first argue that you put it together wrong but then can argue that you opened everything and manipulated all the pieces and parts helping greatly with denying a return. So many people in this world just don't get this simple truth. But it is most certainly the truth. The printers that come ready to run and require little or no setup are generally expensive because they know their stuff has to work. So like the Prusa Mini that is just 3 pieces to assemble will be a good machine. But it is expensive for it's build envelope. And you might be on a waiting list to get it as that printer seems to be a favorite of the printer farms.

[cf_pro]

Spoken like a true enthusiast. On your way into this hobby you should spend some time considering and then understanding why all of these printers come unassembled. If the printer came ready to print and you just opened the box and started printing the expectations of quality would be as such that there would be an absolutely huge return/warranty rate. But to sell and ship them completely unassembled creates a plausible deniability where the manufacturer can first argue that you put it together wrong but then can argue that you opened everything and manipulated all the pieces and parts helping greatly with denying a return. So many people in this world just don't get this simple truth. But it is most certainly the truth. The printers that come ready to run and require little or no setup are generally expensive because they know their stuff has to work. So like the Prusa Mini that is just 3 pieces to assemble will be a good machine. But it is expensive for it's build envelope. And you might be on a waiting list to get it as that printer seems to be a favorite of the printer farms.

LOL, I was just responding to your microwave question... this is what it would take for mainstream adoption.

[AutoWiz]

LOL, I was just responding to your microwave question... this is what it would take for mainstream adoption.

It is important for us to put our thoughts and ideas into this hobby. It is the only way it will grow into what you have envisioned. Because Lord knows as it stands you really gotta look in any town for the home(s) with a 3d printer in them.