What printer around 600€

[curious aardvark]

oh yeah we do have a qidi specific section of the forum: http://3dprintboard.com/forumdisplay...-Printer-Forum

Worth a look :-)

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oh yeah we do have a qidi specific section of the forum: http://3dprintboard.com/forumdisplay...-Printer-Forum

Worth a look :-)

Perfect thanks!

Oh another thing, i can whatever filament i want right? i'm not restricted with a brand or anything right?

[curious aardvark]

nope, completely open source.

Some very interesting filament coming out of italy at the moment as well.
There was some at the tct last year that made prints that looked and felt like fibreglass.

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nope, completely open source.

Some very interesting filament coming out of italy at the moment as well.
There was some at the tct last year that made prints that looked and felt like fibreglass.

Alright but the QiDi only supports PLA and ABS so well, it's more than enough for us, but no exotic filaments i guess

[curious aardvark]

Alright but the QiDi only supports PLA and ABS so well, it's more than enough for us, but no exotic filaments i guess

where'd you read that ?
Absolute nonsense.
Hot bed goes to 120c, hotend goes to 260.
You can print anything that fits within those parameters.

So abs, pla, pet-g, flexible pla, flexible and non-flexible tpu, asa (no idea what this is but it keeps cropping up) most of the taulman nylons and hybrid nylon filaments.

Just because it just says pla and abs on the website doesn't mean a damn thing :-)

Or try to suggest even more expensive printers when a person has claimed to be chasing the cheapest solutions out there? willful ignorance or paid advertising at its finest? you decide. I already know.

Well I can tell you for a fact that it's NOT paid advertising, I'd bring it up a LOT more if it was :-) - or indeed ignorance, willfull or otherwise.
Be careful how you insult people.

Repetier host uses slic3r for slicing.
It's okay.

The thing about simplify 3d is that it is seriously good. You have easier and better control over, pretty much every single aspect of your printer than any other software gives you.
So those of us who use it, generally recommend it. I'll always mention the free alternatives as well. But if you're going to buy just one piece of software in your 3d printing lifetime - it should be simplify 3d.
Yeah it's still got small issues, but give them their due, they do listen to users complaints and do their best to sort them out.

I'll also always try and get people to buy printbite as well.
I know how much hassle, frustration and swearing I used to go through with: tape, glass, pva, hairspray etc, before I bought installed a sheet of printbite.
I'm not trying to make the manufacturers and retailers rich - I'm just trying to improve other people's 3d printing experience.
I know it looks expensive, but at the end of the day it's a one off cost for a print bed that will probably outlast the printer - and when you add up the tape, glue spray etc you'll use over the years - it's actually saving you money in the long run.

It added £30 to the £193 I paid for my delta. But I'll never need to buy anything else to print on, and it works. maybe not quite as miraculous as the manufacturers claim - but damn close.

So before you go being all righteous and insulting - bear in mind we're mostly enthusiasts, anoracks in the english vernacular, and people who are passionate about things.
If we use something we think is good - we'll tell people.

It's as simple as that.

[AutoWiz]

Be careful how you insult people.

aardvark, you consistently suggest simplify3d to customers looking for cheap printers. And to that I firmly say WTF? And I see no reason why I should "be careful" about feeling that way, I respect you and I have insulted no one. Just pointed out how your advice looks when it is the same advice given to everybody. Have you personally used repetier host? Recently like since the 2.0 update?

"But if you're going to buy just one piece of software in your 3d printing lifetime - it should be simplify 3d."

I totally agree with that but to someone who might have been uneasy about coming off the $200 for the ebay printer this is a terrible point to make. If you are chasing the best quality you are not going to start with a cheap printer(Unless you are me). And if you have a cheap printer and double your investment with software alone, you are going to be horribly let down with the quality of your prints for your investment. Advice should be a dynamic thing. dependant on each individual case, wouldn't you agree?

And just a final thought, I like the things I paid for in life better than the things that were given to me. Does that mean they are better or that I have more appreciation for the things I had to work for? Just to keep it all in perspective. I don't think side by side that simplify3d is $150 BETTER than repetier. It is definitely better. It sure does have a couple extra features that are nice. like some of the options for support structures. But it is hardly a $150 increase in quality, quantity, or even ease of use.

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Thing is, it's not free :/

FWIW I picked up on that and joined the conversation when you said you tried a GEEETech i3. But I honestly think this forum or at least some here are more motivated in their responses by certain company or companies. I have seen this on many other forums. Why would we go suggesting software that is more money than a person claimed to spend on their printer? Or try to suggest even more expensive printers when a person has claimed to be chasing the cheapest solutions out there? willful ignorance or paid advertising at its finest? you decide. I already know.

Repetier host works flawlessly. It has excellent support and is regularly updated. Why do we not suggest that first? Especially for those who come here bragging about their ebay or other bottom end printers? Repetier should be the first thing we suggest to these people so we look relevant to what the individual is looking for or like we are paying attention to the conversation at hand, no?

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FWIW I picked up on that and joined the conversation when you said you tried a GEEETech i3. But I honestly think this forum or at least some here are more motivated in their responses by certain company or companies. I have seen this on many other forums. Why would we go suggesting software that is more money than a person claimed to spend on their printer? Or try to suggest even more expensive printers when a person has claimed to be chasing the cheapest solutions out there? willful ignorance or paid advertising at its finest? you decide. I already know.

Repetier host works flawlessly. It has excellent support and is regularly updated. Why do we not suggest that first? Especially for those who come here bragging about their ebay or other bottom end printers? Repetier should be the first thing we suggest to these people so we look relevant to what the individual is looking for or like we are paying attention to the conversation at hand, no?

Doesn't repetier host need some kind of custom firmware in order to work for some printers?

[AutoWiz]

Doesn't repetier host need some kind of custom firmware in order to work for some printers?

No sir. No it doesn't.(for gcode) It comes with the latest version of slic3r and it is all you need to load, slice, and print your files. It takes gcode so you can do your pid autotune n stuff. And it has a very nice GUI.

[curious aardvark]

Have you personally used repetier host? Recently like since the 2.0 update?

yep. Like I say, it's okay.
Cura is also okay - once you figure out that you need to add gcode for a bunch of stuff s3d does via menus. Some stuff I just couldn't get it to do.

And why can't a cheap printer also be a quality printer ?
Mine is :-)

Is s3d worth $150 - probably, I only paid $80 a few years back, so that wasn't a decision I had to make. Though why people always go on about the supports - I don't know.
Not been overly impressed with them myself. And the dual head printing just doesn't work for me. I have tried everything else, even propriatary software. One of My motto's: You never know if it will work till you've tried it :-)

Still looking for laser engraver software for deltas - don't think I need it - but if I find any and it's easier than the method I've already worked out - great.

I'm a great advocate of free and opensource software. s3d is the only software I've bought, probably in the last 15 years.
Like everything it's got a lot more expensive. Would I buy it today ? probably not, and I didn't tell you this, but even the latest 3.1.1 version has been cracked and is available from file sharing services - so I've heard ;-)