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    Super Moderator curious aardvark's Avatar
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    popular doesn't mean best.
    I use gluesticks for certain things. Mainly filaments that don't release from printbite. And yes it's easy and cheap.
    But the printbite, you just print and remove when done. It never needs scrapers, no delicate part ever breaks when you are fighting the release and one sheet should last the lifetime of the printer.

    If you print with anything other than abs (and on an open frame printer, you most likely will be) on an enclosed printer - which I'm getting the impression you never do.
    Then printbite is about as close to perfect as you can currently get.

    I'm assuming you haven't used it and are just going on the opinions of those like yourself who are locked into abs and have enclosed machines.

    I base my knowlege primarily on what I've used and tried and Therefore I know it works. Not just regurgitating someone elses opnions.
    No alternative facts :-)

    I've been using printbite for around a year, after trying every other option out there.
    These days, while I still have to play with settings for new materials - for stuff I've used before, I just print and go.
    I don't need to ever prepare or repair my print surface.
    I don't have any release hassles. If impatient I use a gentle tap to release the part.
    If not around when the print finishes, I just pick it up when i get back to the workshop.
    It is that easy.

    So far I've managed to print almost all materials at 60c bed temp and pet-g at 70.
    Pretty sure the abs I tested was only at 70 as well. And it did work - just stinks and doesn't laminate properly on an open frame printer.

    Some nylon filaments and a couple flexible ones stick too well to printbite, so get printed on the other machine on pva.

    My sole failure to date is polycarbonate. And After talking to the guys from polymaker, who made it, it's mainly because I just can't get my hotend up high enough and I don't have enclosed print volume.

    Everything else has either stuck and released or stuck and laughed at me when i asked it to release.
    Given that the mymat nylon needed releasing with an actual hammer and chisel - and the printbite is unmarked - I'd say that's good evidence it's pretty hard wearing.

    BY all means give advice on things you've actually used - but being negative on something you have no experience of doesn't help anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curious aardvark View Post
    no delicate part ever breaks when you are fighting the release
    I never ever fight to get a part released and that seems to be the norm for most that use glass. The Freezer and they fall off without any pressure if that ever becomes an issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by curious aardvark View Post
    If you print with anything other than abs (and on an open frame printer, you most likely will be) on an enclosed printer - which I'm getting the impression you never do.
    Ahhhhh the impression... Silly boy. Leaving the front door wide open and the top off is pretty much there with an open system which I use for PLA and PETG. Another fail on your end.

    Quote Originally Posted by curious aardvark View Post
    I'm assuming you haven't used it and are just going on the opinions of those like yourself who are locked into abs and have enclosed machines.
    Another swing and a miss. I do use PLA, PETG, HIPS, PVA, and Nylon. I have tried TPE's and TPU's (friend works for a company that makes TPU's and gives me free samples to try and report back) I just don't have a use for them.

    Quote Originally Posted by curious aardvark View Post
    I base my knowlege primarily on what I've used and tried and Therefore I know it works. Not just regurgitating someone elses opnions.
    Hmmm... A sample size of one... Yourself. While regurgitating without experience is a bad practice listening to others and trying to replicate it on your own gives you a broader view on things instead living in your parents basement relying solely on your own opinions.

    Something to think about. I know you've called me a nerd in the past but surely you can grasp this.
    "Sample size determination is the act of choosing the number of observations or replicates to include in a statistical sample. The sample size is an important feature of any empirical study in which the goal is to make inferences about a population from a sample."

    Quote Originally Posted by curious aardvark View Post
    No alternative facts :-)
    None here. We leave the political banter to the liberal/progresive mess to talk about.

    Quote Originally Posted by curious aardvark View Post
    If impatient I use a gentle tap to release the part.
    Great if you like leveling your bed often.

    Quote Originally Posted by curious aardvark View Post
    Everything else has either stuck and released or stuck and laughed at me when i asked it to release.
    Sorry about your luck there..... Glass in the freezer and it's off in 10 minutes with a stubborn print :-)

    Quote Originally Posted by curious aardvark View Post
    BY all means give advice on things you've actually used - but being negative on something you have no experience of doesn't help anyone.
    I am not being negative. I am offering a rebuttal to your one trick pony. I take issues with you because you have to chime in on everything as the "all knowing" You give advise on engineering material/geometry related topics where you are completely unqualified. How is that helping anyone?

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