haha was that harsh? lol. yeah seems to be a disaster for them. they definitely rushed those things out. they should have waited a year, got everything worked out 100% then released them. big rush in the technology game though. i keep watching to see if they make some masterful firmware release that makes everything work right but im not seeing that......yet. the problems keep compounding. the one thing MB has going for them is they sure are nice looking machines so their designers and marketing dept are on the ball.