RIP peachy?

[calvin]

Rylan,

I understand you're in a very shitty situation right now, Given you can't even pay your rent this month. I'm sure you're under a lot of stress.
But I believe peachy is a great idea and don't deserve to die. So hang on and get thru this crisis.

We all want this project to complete. And I think there must be some insightful investor who can spot the value in your company and consider to invest.
But with the burden of fulfilling all backer's kit. Investing certainly look less attractive. If we can minimize the obligation to us. There should be very high chance of finding new investor.

Crowdfunding have the attribute of community. In a community people help out if possible. so let's act together to make some plan to resolve the situation.

Please make a clear list of what's currently ready. Such as...

1.Design~ Is it 100% complete? If not, what's on the task list.

2.Parts~ You have all the parts required for each kit? If not, What's missing and how much will it cost?

3.Packaging~ Is it ready? if not, I'm certain all will agree to receive it in some plastic bag rather than nothing.

4.Shipping~ How backers are distributed globally? I'm sure shipping to individual backer will be more expensive than to ship to some regional backer then let us help distribute the kits using local shipping. (Personally I'm in HongKong and I'm willing to help to re-mail them to backers in HongKong/China/Taiwan etc. (of course those backers have to pay for the actual shipping).

5.Certificate~ If you ship components (support structure/PCB etc.) and omit the laser diode, that could be treat as parts instead of a product. And we have to do the actual manufacturing. Will that eliminate the need for Class1 cert.? Since we're getting some sort of parts. (we can purchase the laser diode on our own if you give us the spec.)

If we can take some obligation/workload off the manufacturing/shipping pipeline, Investing will certainly look much more attractive.

Let's work this out guys~

[amirjabri]

Dear Calvin,

Since you are in Hong Kong, can you even distribute via China more cheaply than we can in Canada/us? Isn't there trade agreements basically subsidizing shipping from China? Like if the kit is 1$ to ship from China to tge US, basically that's all you pay. But the same shipping from within Canada would be like 20$ for a kit. Would it not be cheaper then to ship and package everything from China even taking into consideration hiring five employees for a week? I'm sure that's the case because I can always get stuff mailed from China way way cheaper than from even locally.

[calvin]

Dear Calvin,

Since you are in Hong Kong, can you even distribute via China more cheaply than we can in Canada/us? Isn't there trade agreements basically subsidizing shipping from China? Like if the kit is 1$ to ship from China to tge US, basically that's all you pay. But the same shipping from within Canada would be like 20$ for a kit. Would it not be cheaper then to ship and package everything from China even taking into consideration hiring five employees for a week? I'm sure that's the case because I can always get stuff mailed from China way way cheaper than from even locally.

Dear amirjabri

I'm not sure about how they charge. but usually depends on the weight of the package. If u order light stuff from ebay (sdcard/usb-cable etc.) they usually just use regular air mail to mail it. probably a dollar or 2 will get it to the state.
but if it's anything larger than an envelop, it got to go as "package" then that's more expensive. That's why a lot of large distributor have agreement with shipping warehouse in US or EU. they ship bulk using air flight.
then the warehouse distribute them in small order later according to orders.

And since the parts are already in Canada. It's probably cheaper to mail directly from Canada to US.

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Rylan, Is it possible for peachy to sold all un-certified PCB/mirror as scrap(recycling) for a dollar? I'm more than happy to takecare of that issue for u. ^_*
I'm pretty sure some backer in other continent will also be willing to take care of scraps for backer in their neighborhood. Backers can coordinate themself on what to do with "scrap" later.
a CAD file will let us find place to laser cut them for us to finish the remaining puzzle.

I can even help find manufacture in China to manufacture peachy(labor are much cheaper in China). Peachy can probably sell them for $200 then for each new printer sold, a backer also get one. It could take a while for all of us to get peachy, but at least we will get there...

[DoulosDS]

Hey Amir,
I've sent you several emails with no response... please check your inbox and let me know your plans. Thanks!
DonS

[SideWinderGX]

You have the parts for EVERYTHING, why can't you scribble up some installation diagrams and ask for $20 for shipping for the parts? Its unknown at this time how many backers have received beta kits, but that should be enough to complete your work.

Is it the best you could've done? No, but its the best you can do in this situation.

The courts are going to drag this out which is annoying. But I'll be sending emails out to the police/Crown/attorney general to see how much attention I can drum up.

The internet loves stories like this...buzzfeed, mashable, etc are all going to know David Boe's name and one way or another he's going to jail. Dumbass.

[dbonejones]

...buzzfeed, mashable, etc are all going to know David Bowie's name

Yep, David Bowie is gonna be a regular household name by the time this is all done. People might even write songs about him...

Seriously though, this is all terrible news. People are generally being pretty kind here so far, but I'm disappointed and angry that we weren't told sooner. Whether you thought the situation could be resolved at the time or not the fact is that the investment was totally mismanaged and we were led on. I fully understand that Kickstarter is a gamble, and that there are a million different reasons why the project could've failed. I just personnaly take offense to being led on for years, YEARS, when Rylan could've come clean with the whole situation much earlier, and we could've cut our losses or dug a little deeper in our pockets to help then. I'm really not sure why it was kept secret for so long. If David Boe had actually repaid all the money AFTER Rylan found out but BEFORE we did would David still be part of the team? Would all have been forgiven? All keeping it secret for so long served to do for me was throw Rylan's credibility into question.

I agree that Rylan should put a plan, and a cost, together for shipping the kits in their current form to paid backers. If that's impossible for some reason then LET US KNOW. If these are truly the only hurdles then send a link and instructions on where to buy a certified laser and how to install it, and ship out in simple packaging. Backers could then choose to pay that cost and take their chances again with Rylan to maybe get something sooner, or wait for an outcome in court or a new investor and maybe get something then.

Rylan, you seem like a smart, nice guy, who got dealt a raw deal, but i'll have to think long and hard before I send you another dime.

[SideWinderGX]

LOL oops, could've sworn it was Bowie and not Boe. They'll know both then, the work is half done.

[iplayfast]

Ryan, you had a great idea. The liquid levelling was genius. But....

David did you the favor of opening a personal bank for you to put the funds into?!? You didn't even need two signatures to withdraw money? Are you an idiot?

Oh and I like the theme music for big bad news. Really should have had some violins though.

[SideWinderGX]

Getting some mainstream attention now!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kickstart...102604346.html

How many years in jail do you think a person would get, when the full weight of the internet and thousands of backers scream for justice? Squeaky wheel gets the grease, and I count a lot of squeaky wheels.

[Zone]

Getting some mainstream attention now!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kickstart...102604346.html

How many years in jail do you think a person would get, when the full weight of the internet and thousands of backers scream for justice? Squeaky wheel gets the grease, and I count a lot of squeaky wheels.

Jail/Prison won't solve anything here. The Canadian Justice system forcing the sale of David's house to repay his debts would be justice, people rotting in prison would just prevent everyone from getting what they wanted. (Peachy it's funds back, Us our printers, etc.)