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  1. #681
    I havvn't had all night to try and resolve the issue but here are a few more probes after trying to adjust, its not easy with my bed design.


    RECEIVED: Bed Height Topography:
    RECEIVED: +0.42460 --0.03290 --0.46540 --0.87290 --1.60040
    RECEIVED: +0.68960 +0.26460 --0.12040 --0.54040 --1.25790
    RECEIVED: +0.85210 +0.45960 +0.10460 --0.30290 --0.96290
    RECEIVED: +0.94960 +0.59960 +0.31460 --0.03540 --0.60040
    RECEIVED: +0.99710 +0.70460 +0.52210 +0.20960 --0.30040
    RECEIVED:
    RECEIVED: planeNormal x: 0.01 y: 0.00 z: 1.00
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    RECEIVED:
    RECEIVED: Bed Level Correction Matrix:
    RECEIVED: 0.999979 0.000000 -0.006402
    RECEIVED: -0.000018 0.999996 -0.002818
    RECEIVED: 0.006402 0.002818 0.999976




    RECEIVED: +0.36340 +0.02590 --0.25910 --0.55410 --1.09660
    RECEIVED: +0.53090 +0.22340 --0.02160 --0.31410 --0.84910
    RECEIVED: +0.55340 +0.31090 +0.10590 --0.15910 --0.63660
    RECEIVED: +0.53090 +0.33090 +0.20840 +0.02590 --0.35910
    RECEIVED: +0.45840 +0.34340 +0.28590 +0.14590 --0.19410
    RECEIVED:
    RECEIVED: planeNormal x: 0.00 y: 0.00 z: 1.00
    RECEIVED:
    RECEIVED:
    RECEIVED: Bed Level Correction Matrix:
    RECEIVED: 0.999992 0.000000 -0.004072
    RECEIVED: -0.000006 0.999999 -0.001534
    RECEIVED: 0.004072 0.001534 0.999991






    RECEIVED: +0.34800 +0.08300 --0.13950 --0.36950 --0.83450
    RECEIVED: +0.45300 +0.21800 +0.04050 --0.21200 --0.65200
    RECEIVED: +0.44800 +0.24300 +0.10550 --0.08200 --0.51950
    RECEIVED: +0.34800 +0.22300 +0.14300 +0.01800 --0.35200
    RECEIVED: +0.24050 +0.17800 +0.17800 +0.08050 --0.18700
    RECEIVED:
    RECEIVED: planeNormal x: 0.00 y: 0.00 z: 1.00
    RECEIVED:
    RECEIVED:
    RECEIVED: Bed Level Correction Matrix:
    RECEIVED: 0.999995 0.000000 -0.003162
    RECEIVED: -0.000003 1.000000 -0.000814
    RECEIVED: 0.003162 0.000814 0.999995






    RECEIVED: Bed Height Topography:
    RECEIVED: --0.00380 --0.09130 --0.14380 --0.20130 --0.54630
    RECEIVED: +0.09870 +0.03870 +0.03370 --0.00880 --0.34130
    RECEIVED: +0.11370 +0.08120 +0.11370 +0.09370 --0.20380
    RECEIVED: +0.03370 +0.06120 +0.17370 +0.21620 --0.02130
    RECEIVED: --0.10380 --0.00130 +0.19370 +0.27620 +0.13870
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    RECEIVED: planeNormal x: 0.00 y: 0.00 z: 1.00
    RECEIVED:
    RECEIVED:
    RECEIVED: Bed Level Correction Matrix:
    RECEIVED: 1.000000 0.000000 -0.000596
    RECEIVED: -0.000001 1.000000 -0.000884
    RECEIVED: 0.000596 0.000884 0.999999

  2. #682
    hey, im having issues downloading the attachments from this site, ive tried every major browser and my phone, but it always loads up clear.gif...
    is there any way one of you could put the files in a dropbox or something so i can get my hands on them?
    i would very much appreciate it

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    Quote Originally Posted by blyind View Post
    hey, im having issues downloading the attachments from this site, ive tried every major browser and my phone, but it always loads up clear.gif...
    3Dprintboard had some technical problems in April 2015. Many attachments posted prior to that no longer work. Nothing seems to be happening to fix the problem, so the attachments are likely lost. Can't help with the files, but now at least you know to stop trying.

    EDIT: Roxy, you might consider editing your first post as required to eliminate this ongoing confusion/frustration.
    Last edited by printbus; 08-18-2015 at 07:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blyind View Post
    hey, im having issues downloading the attachments from this site, ive tried every major browser and my phone, but it always loads up clear.gif...
    is there any way one of you could put the files in a dropbox or something so i can get my hands on them?
    i would very much appreciate it
    This post should help -
    http://3dprintboard.com/showthread.php?3105-Auto_Bed_Leveling-Enhanced-G29-command&p=61800&viewfull=1#post61800

  5. #685
    Hey Roxy

    Had a go with Manual Mesh Levelling last night, and interesting enough doing a 2x2 grid produced pretty good results. I understand this works using a different method to auto bed levelling, but doesn't this prove the plane is at least flat and there's something else mis-configured/not working with the auto bed levelling?

    Not sure whether any of the points I raised previously could have any implications?

    * Is there anything that could be being loading from the EPROM memory that could be distorting the map?

    * When the G29 is being completed I get 'Z endstop hit'...could this be stopping figures lower than the G28 Z-home position from being correctly registered?

    * If I've got software max-stop points set and the nozzle position moves outside of these during probing, which mine does as the probe is 32mm in front (Y axis) of the extruder and the probe scans right to the back corners so the extruder is just about off the table at this point, would that cause any issues?

    * If one of the offsets is set to '0' (my X offset is), is there anywhere in the code where this would read as empty and load some default value or cause a calculation error ('division by zero' or similar)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by printbus View Post
    EDIT: Roxy, you might consider editing your first post as required to eliminate this ongoing confusion/frustration.
    Agreed... I'll do that now... If you can think of anything else that should be added to the note, please speak up!
    Last edited by Roxy; 08-19-2015 at 11:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astek777 View Post
    Had a go with Manual Mesh Levelling last night, and interesting enough doing a 2x2 grid produced pretty good results. I understand this works using a different method to auto bed levelling, but doesn't this prove the plane is at least flat and there's something else mis-configured/not working with the auto bed levelling?
    I think that is true.

    Quote Originally Posted by Astek777 View Post
    Not sure whether any of the points I raised previously could have any implications?

    * Is there anything that could be being loading from the EPROM memory that could be distorting the map?
    Not if the EEPROM is turned off. And if the EEPROM is turned on, doing a M502 followed by a M500 should clear any bad values from the EEPROM.


    Quote Originally Posted by Astek777 View Post
    * When the G29 is being completed I get 'Z endstop hit'...could this be stopping figures lower than the G28 Z-home position from being correctly registered?
    The G29 command has always done that. It doesn't hurt anything. I believe has been corrected in the latest releases over at GitHub. But those releases are not fully baked and are not stable yet.


    Quote Originally Posted by Astek777 View Post
    * If I've got software max-stop points set and the nozzle position moves outside of these during probing, which mine does as the probe is 32mm in front (Y axis) of the extruder and the probe scans right to the back corners so the extruder is just about off the table at this point, would that cause any issues?
    That doesn't sound right. Just to get things going, I would suggest you shrink the defined bed size. You can also use the F B L R parameters to limit the size of the probe area. You would do something like G29 T n 4 V 4 F 50 B 125 L 50 R 125 You can try that and let us know what happens.



    Quote Originally Posted by Astek777 View Post

    * If one of the offsets is set to '0' (my X offset is), is there anywhere in the code where this would read as empty and load some default value or cause a calculation error ('division by zero' or similar)?
    I don't believe so. I don't think this is what you are fighting.

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    Hello all.
    Well, I'm getting very frustrated. Hope someone can help me.

    Here's my setup.
    Prusa Mendal printer.
    Arduino>BeckDac firmware.
    Auto bed leveling.
    Bed is 1/2" aluminum tooling plate. It's flat. On top of that is a 1/4" piece of cork. Then an aluminum heated bed, 24 volt. And, then a piece of boro glass that seems very flat.
    Bed is held at 3 points on springs. 2 at the corner on right side and 1 in the center of the left side.
    Probing is at 3, which gives 9 points.

    Problem:
    After running bed leveling it seems that most of the time the left side is too tight, by about 3 steps and the right side is too loose by a couple of steps. If I adjust for a good bead while printing the skirt then the rest of the print seems fine. It does it every time, no exceptions.
    This is easier to read. Don't know what happened to the formatting??

    Switch repeatability is very good.

    Please tell me what you need from me to help solve my problem?

    Bob Keyes

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    Can you run the M48 command positioned over both the 'tight' area and the 'loose' area. It would be helpful to know those numbers.

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    Here you go. Looks good to me, but what do I know!

    >>>m48
    SENDING:M48 "Loose"
    M48 Z-Probe Repeatability test. Version 2.00
    Full support at: http://3dprintboard.com/forum.php
    Mean: 17.065334
    Standard Deviation: 0.005371
    echo:endstops hit: Z:17.06
    >>>m48
    SENDING:M48 "Tight"
    M48 Z-Probe Repeatability test. Version 2.00
    Full support at: http://3dprintboard.com/forum.php
    Mean: 16.394889
    Standard Deviation: 0.009430
    echo:endstops hit: Z:16.39

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