Getting right settings to get ABS to stick

[Moby58]

Hi Guys,

Picked up a new (secondhand) Creator Pro.
2015 model with v10 printheads
Sailfish firmware
Simplify3D
FlashForge ABS

Printed a few things with not bad success.

Added a 3mm mirror as bed, but getting problems getting the ABS to stick to it

Wanted to use hairspray but the ABS didnt stick well.

So, how thick or thin should I spray the hairspray onto the mirror?

Are there any ingredients in the hairspray I should be looking for, or avoiding, or should any hairspray do?

Using the default settings in Simplify3D for the printer.

Should I be changing bed temp, extruder temp, etc when having a glass bed??

Same sorts of questions if I use the purple glue stick.

Thickness? temperatures? etc

TIA

[Sebastian Finke]

For ABS

1) HBP must be trammed to 0.1
2) Extruders must be calibrated
3) Heat HBP to 95-100C
4) Use ABS slurry on glass or Kapton tape for best adhesion
5) Extruder temp should about 220-235C (varies from brand to brand and colour to colour)
6) Set a slower first layer. If print feed is, say, 60 then make the first layer speed 25 (for example)
7)MOST IMPORTANT: Chamber must be completely enclosed. Plug/cover ALL holes and openings. Preheat chamber by running HBP at print temp for 20 or so minutes.

[curious aardvark]

hairspray wise - you need one that has vinyl as an ingredient.

I bought some from a discount store - and then promptly changed to pla, so never actually used it :-)

Ideally you want unscented and for a firm hold - firmer the hold the more vinyl it'll have in it :-)

I have wondered if the stretchy vinyl plumbers tape I use would also be a good base for abs. But as I don't use abs any more - never actually got round to trying it.

The rolls are 4 for £1 - so much much cheaper than painters tape or pei or kapton tape.
Got to be worth a try :-)

[ServiceXp]

A Mirror?, I've not seen that used before?

[djprinter]

Aquanet superhold works great, too great sometimes--i've had chunks of glass ripped out of my build plate when removing an ABS part.

I now use PET tape on glass with some ABS slurry.

[ServiceXp]

I still say that is some cheap a$$ glass for that to happen..

[Bobby Lin]

Hi! This resource might help you in configuring the right settings to successfully print with ABS. Hope this helps!

[Sebastian Finke]

Hi! This resource might help you in configuring the right settings to successfully print with ABS. Hope this helps!

That article won't do much to help. It mentions nothing about enclosing the build area. THAT is the key!

[atilla_the_fun]

Have been printing ABS with a Dreamer for a while with great results:

Printer: Dreamer, all metal hot end.
Bed: PEI sheet (amazon, cheap) - 3M adhesive tape.
*This is what you want, its incredibly tough, and it is perfect for PLA prints*
Extruder: 245C
Bed Temp: 115-120C, I got the best adhesion at the higher temp.
Use purple glue stick (PVP) .. one pass, make the print area or whole bed purple. I don't clean between prints, just dab a paper towel with water and quickly wipe the area - it turns purple again, then I put another layer on. Works every time, 100% of the time. Use bare PEI bed for PLA prints. Gluestick for everything else.