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    Question Ender 3 - Print Issues (Novice Printer)

    Hey Y'all,I've been lurking on this forums for a few days now, and I've picked up quite a bit. I've been watching loads of CHEP/Filament Friday's YouTube videos. However, I'm still struggling with my printer.SoftwareDesign Tool: Autodesk Fusion 360 (Will be switching to Blender3D due to licensing issues)Slicer: Ultimaker Cura v4.6.1Filament: Stock Filament that came with the printer. I'm assuming PLA. I've ordered Inland PLA from MicroCenter.I've provided photos below, and I own this domain, where I've hosted the gcodes and STL files I'm using. I've also included the print settings I'm currently using.As you can see, the top left of my print comes out nicely, while the rest comes out thin, and horrible. I've leveled the bed with CHEP's bed leveling. Used a piece of paper and slid it in and out until I felt the paper being grabbed by the tip. I've ran a few test runs, Test_1A/B is the first run I did, and Test_2/A/B is the 2nd run I did. I manually adjusted the bed while it was printing. A few spots turned out better.

    Frankly, learning this has been the most frustrating experience of my life. I work in IT, specifically Data Centers. I'm by no means an "idiot". I know I'm missing something simple here, or don't understand something about the slicer. I've purchased a few classes from Udemy, and I plan on studying up. I have a project in mind I want to do, and my work has agreed to pay for any filaments I need if I print a few projects to help reduce damage to spare parts. We're throwing away thousands of dollars on motherboards because they were damaged.

    Anyways, if someone can point me in the right direction, it would be much appreciated. I don't need the exact answer, kind of takes away the fun of learning, but it would be nice to lessen the hair pulling. I've posted in reddit, but I felt I needed an actual forum for help. I also joined a Discord channel, and instantly regretted it. Several people were a-holes, and I just bounced. I don't have time for elitism.

    Thanks in advance! I work night shift, I look forward to reading where I goofed up.

    Cheers,
    Data

    Edit: I've included the original images due to re-sizing on the forums. Mind you, these are 4mb+ png files are a 4K resolution. Hoping the extra detail will help, if not my bad haha
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    step 1 - clean the bed with soap and water
    step 2 - clean the bed with IPA
    step 3 - level the bed again with the paper method (go around 3 or 4 times)
    step 5 - reprint your calibration print and live adjust as needed
    (hint - the worst areas in your photos look like you're too high, but that may just be poor adhesion, thus cleaning measures)

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    Quote Originally Posted by xayoz View Post
    step 1 - clean the bed with soap and waterstep 2 - clean the bed with IPAstep 3 - level the bed again with the paper method (go around 3 or 4 times)step 5 - reprint your calibration print and live adjust as needed(hint - the worst areas in your photos look like you're too high, but that may just be poor adhesion, thus cleaning measures)
    Just to be clear, IPA as in alcoholic beverage or Isopropyl Alcohol?I also have a glass plate I want to use, but failed epically at leveling the bed, lol.Thank you for the suggestions, I'll try them this coming weekend when I have time off from work.

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    Isopropyl, preferably 99%, do not use beer

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    I went to the store to look for 99%, couldn't find it. I decided to use what I had at home, which happens to be 70%. I some-what regret using it, I've got a nasty film on mine now. However, prints did stick a WHOLE lot better after I switched to a glass plate. My colleagues at work, and a few people from the reddit website said to skip using the abrasive plate. Now I have a new problem, I can't seem to get the filament to stick in the center. Is there a way to raise the center? Here are my next few print tests I did, to see the progress I made. On a side note, I was tempted to use home made moonshine (95% alcohol/190 Proof) but it had flavoring which would've defeated the purpose.
    http://hadesproject.com/3dprinting/Test_3.jpg
    http://hadesproject.com/3dprinting/Test_4.jpg
    http://hadesproject.com/3dprinting/Test_4A_Pawn.jpg
    http://hadesproject.com/3dprinting/Test_4B_Pawn.jpg
    http://hadesproject.com/3dprinting/Test_4C_Pawn.jpg
    http://hadesproject.com/3dprinting/Test_5.jpg
    http://hadesproject.com/3dprinting/Test_6.jpg
    http://hadesproject.com/3dprinting/Test_7.jpg


    Edit: Is it because the clamps are too tight by chance?
    Edit2: God the formatting screw ups are super obnoxious.
    Last edited by BinaryData; 07-01-2020 at 05:41 AM.

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    if you got a film, you did not clean off the remaining soap properly, keep cleaning and it will be good. But if you got glass, then you shouldn't need to worry about that for a while. I like the ability to remove the plate and flex it to pop off a print, so mine is getting a spring steel plate soon.

    As far as glass being a different height in the middle, glass is supposed to prevent that. But yes, you could try shimming it with tin foil or something similar so that it transfers the heat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xayoz View Post
    if you got a film, you did not clean off the remaining soap properly, keep cleaning and it will be good. But if you got glass, then you shouldn't need to worry about that for a while. I like the ability to remove the plate and flex it to pop off a print, so mine is getting a spring steel plate soon.

    As far as glass being a different height in the middle, glass is supposed to prevent that. But yes, you could try shimming it with tin foil or something similar so that it transfers the heat.
    Far simpler solution! Move the Z-Axis up. Someone on the /r/ender3 suggested this over shimming it. When you use the glass plate vs the other build plate, you need to move the Z-Axis, otherwise you can't level it correctly. None of the guides/videos I've watched, cover this. Good to know though!

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