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Hi.
I bought a Creality Ender 5 plus (24V) and would like to replace the motherboard with a 32bit motherboard with drivers for better printing and quiet operation of the 3d printer.
What 32bit motherboard with drivers should I buy?
What firmware will I need and where can I download it?
Thank you in advance for your help.
(Sorry for the translation, English is not my native language)
The 32 bit boards all are using different processors. Whereas all the 8 bit boards were using the same atmega 2560 running at 16mhz the 32 bit boards range from 72mhz all the way up to 300mhz. The higher the clock speed of the processor can only translate into more decisions made per second. And so you would think we would all be searching for the 32 bit board with the best processor because that will very likely handle the higher speed printing in the best capacity. The most powerful 32 bit mainboard we can get by the specs right now outside of the DUET 3 6HC which runs at 300mhz is gonna be the FYSETC S6 which runs at 180mhz. Here is a link to this board on ali: S6 V2.0 Board 32 Bit Control Board Support 6X TMC Drivers Uart/SPI Flying Wire XH/MX Connector VS F6 V1.3 SKR V1.3|3D Printer Parts & Accessories| - AliExpress .
The SKR mini e3 runs at 72mhz, The SKR 1.3 and 1.4 run at 100mhz, The SKR 1.4 Turbo runs at 120mhz, The SKR PRO and GTR 1.0 run at 168mhz. All 8 bit boards were near identical apart from their connectors But the 32 bit boards are a completely different world. They are all different.
Oh and as for drivers I would go with TMC2226. They are basically a revamped TMC2209 for better heat dissipation. They are silent, support sensorless homing, advanced stallgaurd, and all the other latest features of the day as they are the latest offering. BIGTREETECH TMC2226 V1.0 Stepper Motor Driver – Biqu Equipment
Given that I have printed at 200mm/s with an 8bit atmega 1280 - the cheapest andnastiest board on the planet.
You don't need to go into duet realms of expense.
the skr 1.4 turbo with the silent steppers - should be more than enough.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BIGTREETE...UAAOSwOQpfyjO2
great little board and even has sockets for dual z axis motors - which you need for the ender 5 (I think, looks like it has 2 z motors)
You can pickup the board, tmc steppers and a 3.5 inch touch screen for about £70.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BIGTREETE...MAAOSwE91eAcFu
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BIGTREETE...oAAOSwgjVgNhhX
Usually cheaper in the states.
Hi.
Please buy me if you buy this board S6 V2.0 Board 32 Bit Control Board Support 6X TMC Drivers Uart / SPI Flying Wire XH / MX Connector VS F6 V1.3 SKR V1.3
https://www.aliexpress.com/i/4000345369228.html
Why there is a price of 33.32 - 36.10 US $. Will it be on 24V?
What drivers should I buy?
https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale...t=TMC2226+V1.0
The original touch screen of the Creality Ender 5 plus can be connected to this board.
Will I need to buy anything else to connect this board?
Thank you very much for your help.
ALL of these mainboards will happily run on either 12 or 24v and they are all even labeled on the power input 12-24v. The issue with the voltage difference really is just a thing for the fans. While the heaters are labeled 12 and 24v they are controlled by a fully tunable PWM driver circuit known as a PID loop. and so we can have shorter less intensive pulses at 24v happily drive a 12v heater. and we can run 12v fans with a $2 ebay buck LM2596 step down converter. 12-24v is less of a problem than you could ever know.
I like my connections and wiring to be tight and clean and so when I aquire a new mainboard I will usually identify the connectors I need which lately all seem to be the mini jst connectors and i head over to ebay and find a bunch of pigtails and break out my soldering station and make my wiring look like this. It is not absolutely necessary but it does give the printer a finished look and also does a real good job at preventing the micro motion and fretting withing electical connections. Especially on robots with 3 moving axes.. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/agW5it.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Pavelev
You're done nicely. I need advice on the driver. Which I specifically buy, I exchange TMC2226. I'm just learning it, so I don't understand everything. I need drivers for Creality Ender 5 plus for this board S6 V2.0 Board 32 Bit Control Board Support 6X TMC Drivers Uart / SPI Flying Wire XH / MX Connector VS F6 V1.3 SKR V1.3. For axes Z1, Z2, Y, X. And also for the motor which feeds the filament.
How do you mean you exchange tmc2226? Those are the drivers to have. Some older mainboards do not have support for the extra 2 pins under the tmc2209/2226/5160 drivers and so that group will run the 2208/2225 drivers. The FYSETC S6 has support for the extra pins so you can use any driver made on that board. I would run the TMC2226 drivers myself. For X,Y,Z,and E. As for Z2 the FYSETC S6 has 6 stepper driver sockets and 7 stepper motor sockets. You will only need one driver for Z1 & Z2. Get a 4 pack of TMC2226 drivers, configure the pins on the mainboard for UART, configure marlin as if they were TMC2209 drivers, and enjoy the silent printing.
I apologize for my poor translation of the English language. I use google. I'm from the Czech Republic and nobody wants to advise me here.
1. I bought a Creality Ender 5 plus
2. I want to replace the original board with a 32bit board.
3. I want to buy this board S6 V2.0 Board 32 Bit Control Board Support 6X TMC Drivers Uart / SPI Flying Wire XH / MX Connector VS F6 V1.3 SKR V1.3
4. Here on this page: https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale? CatId = 0 & initiative_id = SB_20210311063519 & SearchText = TMC2226 + V1.0
There are 4 types of TMC2226 drivers:
(1) BIGTREETECH TMC2226 V1.0 UART Stepper Motor Driver 3D Printer Parts TMC2209 TMC2208 SKR V1.3 SKR V1.4 MINI E3 For Ender 3 CR10
(2) BIGTREETECH TMC2226 V1.0 Stepper Motor Driver Stepstick Mute 3D Printer Parts For SKR V1.3 SKR V1.4 Turbo Pro MKS 3D Motherboard
(3) BIGTREETECH TMC2226 V1.0 Stepper Motor Silent Driver VS TMC2209 / 2130 Driver For SKR V1.3 / V1.4 / V1.4 Turbo MKS 3D Printer Parts
(4) BIGTREETECH TMC2226 V1.0 Stepper Motor Driver UART 3D Printer Parts vs TMC2209 TMC2208 For SKR V1.3 V1. 4 Turbo Ender-3 CR10
and I don't know which one to buy.
Only today I learned what drivers are.
5. When I decide what to buy, I need advice on how to assemble and set it up.
6. What Firmware should I download and how to install it.
I need step-by-step advice on how to proceed and what to do.
So the stepper drivers aren't specific to brands or makes of printers. Those might just be the same drivers from different suppliers or something. Generally the difference we will find is whether they are configured for standalone or UART or SPI. You want to get the ones that say UART. The difference is that in standalone you adjust forward current(voltage) to the stepper motor with a screwdriver on the stepper driver and you configure the jumpers underneath the driver for the mode you want it to always run in. This standalone mode works. But the UART lets you adjust forward current, modes, and stepping value in the firmware. Aside from this making the forward current adjustment safer this method allows the mainboard to command the driver to switch to different modes for different situations. Like running the stepper driver in silent stealthchop mode when the print speeds are slow but whenever a fast movement is commanded the stepper driver can switch to spreadcycle mode for the extra holding torque so it doesn't skip steps. You really want to get the UART drivers and then set them up for UART.
Here is a video on setting up the FYSETC S6: Fysetc F6 - HOW TO INSTALL on a 3DPrinter (Ender3) - YouTube .Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavelev
I personally would find the absolute latest version of marlin. I think it is up to 2.0.7.2 and configure that and I would also use platformIO to manipulate and flash said marlin. And here is a video on that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6zYvRgGr3Q&t=
There really is no one here who would be able to advise me? I know I'm not good at it, but I have to start somewhere and there's nowhere to get proper information.
Well I mean you can start a thread on your new project and post up questions with pictures there and we will always chime in with answers and opinions.
Please, I'm so sorry. I did not notice that the answers to my question are already on page 2.
I want to thank you for your help and willingness to help me.
lol - a more comprehensive set of answers you could not have got :-)
Hi.
I decided to buy a 32 bit board for the Neder 5 Plus this:
S6 V2.0 Board 32 Bit
https://www.aliexpress.com/i/4000345369228.html
and these BIGTREETECH TMC2226 V1.0 Stepper Motor Driver
https://www.biqu.equipment/collectio...31745990459490
Can you advise me what display I can buy for this board?
And if I don't need to buy anything else to be able to assemble the record?
Thank you in advance for your great help.
All the tft touch screens communicate over a serial connection, like usb. And so they all need just 4 wires to run. +5v, gnd, rx, and tx. Some also have a reset pin. I am fond of the v3.0 BTT tft screens. I have a few of the tft35 v3.0 and for my TronXY 500 pro with the SKR PRO i am running a tft70 v3.0. Whatever you like they do not require firmware changes to work. plug and play.
Hi.
I am buying a BIGTREETECH TFT43 V 3.0, I need it to fit in place of the original display. The TFT70 V3.0 is nice but too big.
Thank you very much for your great help.
Awesome. Here is a link to an enclosure for that screen for your printer that you can freely download and print out: Ender 5 Plus / CR-10S Pro/Max TFT43 Case by mikes2277 - Thingiverse
Don't forget to take and share some pictures with us.
So I'll give you photos. I'm waiting for the ordered goods from Banggood. I am currently ordering a board with a Stepper Motor Driver and a display from AliExpress.
Hi.
Now I was walking through Yout and I accidentally found a video showing a disassembled stepper motor. I wanted to return to the video later, but I closed it by mistake and now I can't find it.
When I replace the N5 Plus board with a 32bit S6 V 2.0 encoder board to control the printer's original stepper motors, or do I have to buy other stepper motors?
The stepper motors you have are just fine. They should be 1.8 degree stepper motors that have 200 steps per revolution. Down the road if you like you can swap the stepper motors for X,Y, and E with an equally sized 0.9 degree stepper motor that doubles the resolution with 400 steps per revolution. There is usually no need to do this to Z.
So I'm glad I would solve stepper motors only if you stopped fugging one.
Thank you for your help.
Hello.
I promised to give photos when I did some ubgrade. Linear travels on the X axis.Attachment 16276Attachment 16277