Think you want a BIBO? Read this first!

I got the dual extruder with laser model from amazon. When i opened the carton a long sharp pointed wire was slipped in the hollow of the corregation of the box flap. I pulled the two sides open and the pointed wire flicker d out and stabbed me in the lip..it broke the skn, it bled. This wire rod ground to a sharp point bibo tells me it is for clearing the nozzle ..amazon tells me the packaging method to cause this dangerous rod poised to fly out in your face is checked by amazon and is approved by amazon! Good thing it did not stab me in the eye. I do worry that because the package comes from china that i may have been contaminated or infected with something. I sent the package to the US CDC for investigation. And so far, amazon refuses to refund me the 700 bucks! The CDC will not return it to me even if i did want it back".....So.....I am OUT 700 bucks and have a swollen lip

Oooookay.
umm, does the printer work ?

Your issues with packaging are not relevant to this forum, have you used the printer.
Or were you so indignant that you haven't bothered to try it ?

I can't see any grounds for a refund, unless the prjnter doesn;t actually work.

And why would you stabbing youself HAVE any bearing on whether the printer works or not ?
That's pretty much the only thing that will get you a refund from china.

On a positive note (lol) I've never recieved a nozzle unclogger with any printer.
So from my point of view, that would be a point in bibo's favour.

So is there any issue with the actual printer - or are you just too indignant to even try it ?

never received a unclogger? creality sends one- with the CR10--a .4 mm on a handle--WITH A PROTECTIVE CAP ON IT!

PERHAPS--the post was not read or understood --when opening the carton--the harpoon was slid into the open corrugation of one side- one flap of the carton--after running a box knife across the tape--the 2 flaps were pulled open--and the harpoon flew out--flicked out and stabbed me--added value of a BIBOa trip to get a tetanus shot

curious--are you chinese? or a shill of some kind for china or BIBO?

yeah - but then you have to buy a creality....

Just saying, it's not that usual.
Or grounds to send a printer back that we don't even know was actually removed from the box.

If all you have is that you managed to open the box in such a way that you stabbed yourself.
Then you have no grounds to actually go around bad mouthing bibo printers.

did you even try it ?

indignant? no pal i was bleedingi did not disturb the contents of the carton- i got a return authorization from amazon as soon as I got back from the E.R.

"managed to open the box in a way to stab myself"

yeah--this person is chinese for sure

enough shilling for me

Even covid can't survive the length of time it takes anything to travel from china.

Are you saying you sent the ENTIRE printer box -with printer still inside to the cdc ?
Did they ask you to ?
If not then you've just given yoyur printer away - and have even less grounds to claim a refund.

Am i A shill for china ?
Umm, no lol

Look at it from a purely logical point of view of someone who is not you.

You recieved a printer, stabbed yourself with a nozzle clogger. Then threw a hissy fit and gave the printer away and now want your money back.

Clearly nobody else has stabbed themselves in this manner, or it would have been a known issue and you'd find it all over the internet.

Bibo have a good name in the industry for making decent machines and giving decent customer service.

This is a 3d printing forum - not a public halth forum or a platform for people with a personal grievance unrelated to the actual function of a 3d printer.

Had you kept the box and managed to replicate what happened and make a video - then perhaps you might have received some compensation for proving the packaging was dangerous.

But it still would not reflect on the actual printer.

wow- some clowns think they are expertsabout COVID TOO!AAAaaHhahahaha

just look at the reviews in amazon--enough said about bimbo printers

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...I pulled the two sides open and the pointed wire flicker d out and stabbed me in the lip..it broke the skn, it bled...

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...Look at it from a purely logical point of view of someone who is not you...

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We aren't supposed to use our mouths or faces to open mail. I am just saying. Or if we are that near sighted maybe we should use glasses so we don't have to hold our faces inches away from the box we are opening. From reading this I have a picture in my head now of a desperate 3d printer lashing out against a deranged human attempting to give fellatio to it's packaging. It's this type of behavior that is going to make the machines rise up against us one day.

But seriously a trip to the E.R. just opening a 3d printer box has to be a new record. The CDC is the wrong group for you to reach out to. You need to be getting in touch with Guinness in an effort to claim that new world record.

good grief! reading comprehension 101--
it flew up --flicked out-- --as in---traveled through the air.--yes- a tetanus shot from a metal object piercing the skin is advisable.

hey whatever-- please but several bibos-- you deserve it

chinese shills are everywhere

i love my stratasys -- go cheap- go china-- go right ahead

just be carefull-- there is a danger inside the box

i own a cnc machine shop. specialize in working with design engineers to develop thier new products. they send thier "concept" and we refine it into a component or assembly that can be manufactured--economically as possible. The design engineers dont often know "IF" things can be machined ot cast. We help them out. Then machine the components for thier vreation so they can test it and send it to UL for approval. I also have a friend that owns a bronze foundry. I've been printing lost was type patterns for him. Refining the shape/ form in zbrush cad and maya into a form that will cast and burn out nicely. I use the stratasys for that--first print last print every print--is magnificent. perfect every time. I ordered the bibo for running or printing smaller models of these concepts -- to more accurately visualize-- on a screen in cad-- can fool you. it helps to print the components -- hold it in your hand etcetera. we both bought 1 of the bibo dual extruders- steel case- heavy--a good fit for machine shop and foundry environments. I recieved mine first. the harpoon story is above, He finally after 3 weeks of going back and forth with bibo- edits- firmware- trying to get cura to work--finally--But he finally got it printing! If you want to call it that. the prints are hodeous! when one extruder is printing the other extruder is oozing gooplets- that then get dragged into the model. .bibo says lower the temp. he tried and tried- cant stp the gooping and still keep a print going hot enough to extrude. He is sending it back to amazon also.I make full sized cnc's busts too with a scanner and cncs

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Ya that would have been good advice 18 years back before we started having the kids. But it's a bit late for all that now. And honestly I don't even know what relevance that has to 3d printing. As for your printer's reviews, have you seen this? https://www.hackster.io/news/review-...e-48e48dfc37d3 .
I mean honestly it is way too small of a build volume for my interests at 214x186x160mm max build volume. You wont be making big things with that. I think 200x200x200 is a very small build volume for the end of 2020. Especially for a corexy. Have you looked at TronXY and maybe someone to unbox and assemble for you so you don't get hurt again or set any fires? The X5SA PRO comes in up to 500x500x600mm build volume. And something like that is worth the effort of assembly and then fighting to overcome manufacturing deficiencies. Right? Because the juice has to be worth the squeeze.

yes we saw the good reviews--should have read those on amazon first--it's a junker. old school machine shop foundry- looked good because of the metal enclosure.I use the stratasys for the lost wax type patters, it too is too small- must print halves sometimes.but we have had decent luck with types of machinable wax- my cnc's are plenty big . doesnt burn out well unless we modify the model- thicker here and there. nest thing to do for kicks- a family totem-- heads of all family members on a log standing upright--and 3d printed little ones too--have to be sectioned for printing- but full size hardwood for the big onelove that artec!