New Matter will be accepting pre-orders for the MOD-t pretty soon on the New Matter web site (you can sign up for e-mail notifications now), and should start shipping those orders shortly after the Indiegogo campaign units are shipped.
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New Matter will be accepting pre-orders for the MOD-t pretty soon on the New Matter web site (you can sign up for e-mail notifications now), and should start shipping those orders shortly after the Indiegogo campaign units are shipped.
Any ideas on timescale before you get an EU shipping point ?
Otherwise between the horrendous postage from the states and the criminal import tax into the eu, they're just not worth buying.
You're looking at - probably - double the actual us cost.
I had to look it up on the indiegogo site, but it suggests April/May 2015 for shipping to backers - can any backers confirm?
I haven't seen any videos on YouTube yet other than the prototype running from way back when.
Just ran a search on Youtube for "New Matter CES 2015" and it came up with several videos of the MOD-t printing, as well as some tech blog interviews and stuff like that.
Here's a good example from GamerHub:
http://youtu.be/riE2b3eJ3EE
Ah - so the bed moves x&y.
And on screws by the look of it.
I like it.
Although why they were using that level of infill is beyond me :-)
Not quite, they are straight-cut gears (think of a spline shaft), just very long. The bottom of the bed contains a rack making up one half of the rack and pinion. If you only spin one of the two shafts, it the opposite direction's rack will just slide along the gear with no translational movement. It is a great idea - it makes both guidance and locomotion all in one simple system with very few moving parts.
That makes more sense - and very neat.
Sorry I'm a bit late on it, last week's update was introducing one of the NewMatter Store's 3D modellers, and going over the printed pencil-top toy. I've been paring down the updates to just the details on the progress with the printer itself (the actual email updates each have a small bio on one member of the New Matter team to accompany the technical portion).
This latest one however indicated that there might be a whole series of updates that are introductions to the artists populating the New Matter Store. So while technical content is a bit light, they at least have some interesting previews of pieces that will be in the store.
https://gallery.mailchimp.com/71bf71...399ba7be30.jpg
Pencil Top by Hugo Pilate.
Oh, also they got an article in USA Today, which isn't a bad thing at all.:)
Well, this week's update was huge and has several parts. (which I'm presenting a bit out-of-order, and one part is already covered in Eddy's post on the $6.5 million in Series A funding that the company just received from investors.)
The main part of this announcement from a technical perspective is the factory tour and the first parts off of the production tooling. As a first part, the goal here was more to assess the manufacturer and get a realistic view of their capabilities moving forward. Consider that while injection molding a part takes seconds, manufacturing the molds for each part takes from three to six weeks. Thankfully, not every part of the MOD-t is injection molded, but there are almost certainly a few more molds for this factory to make before mass production goes forward at full speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by New Matter
It also thoroughly and definitively answers one question that's been on lots of minds: "When is the MOD-t getting delivered?" Well, I'll just skip all the details and go right to the meat of this.There are reasons for the delay almost entirely on the manufacturer's side of the process. In the manufacturing world, a miscalculation (aka, a factory overrating their ability while trying to get a client) of about three to six months is pretty common. I'm not happy about it, (And I'm sure the New Matter team isn't either) but I'm not at all surprised.Quote:
Originally Posted by New Matter
Lastly, while it wasn't a specific bullet point, it was mentioned that the MOD-t will very likely hit retail later this year for close to $400 (I would assume that means $399) If it seems like a price jump from the crowdfunding price, consider that these guys will have to pay their investors, distributors and retailers in addition to the cost of simply making the product. Bits like that add up pretty quickly.
What's the point of announcing retail if they're not even shipping the early models till september ?
The general public like to buy thing and get things. Not buy things and then wait a few months.
This could well be the first mainstream home 3d printer, but not if they announce retail before it's ready to ship in quantities.
Well, they haven't exactly announced a retail date, just "later this year". And the context of the statement was along the lines of "If you need to get a refund due to the delay, remember that it will cost just under $400 at retail later this year, so your patience is saving you some money." Not so much an announcement, as a matter-of-fact statement that leaked some information.
I doubt they'll even have them up for pre-order until at least the All-Star pledges have shipped.
Hi Feign,
What do you think of the last few updates? I'm also a contributor and thought that update #30 had some interesting technical content.
Can you share some of the technical content?
Hi Duck,
I guess I can. I just didn't want to take over Feign's thread since he was posting updates about the New Matter contributor updates. On update 30 they talked about a "secret sauce" coating on their guide rods and also showed some close-up pictures of the rods.
Here is a copy and paste of that section of the update:
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One of the things that will make the MOD-t so awesome and easy to use is that it is going to require minimal maintenance! The machine will not need to be lubricated or maintained by the user – it’s essentially “lubed for life”. This means that the vertical guide rods and pinion rods will not need to be greased or oiled. Eliminating oil or grease from the rods will keep the machine and user clean and will prevent the accumulation of dust or grime (and who's got time for that?).
https://ci5.googleusercontent.com/pr...082f8ddd53.jpg
The MOD-t's guide rods on the left and pinion rods to the right. Close up shot to see the shiny protective sauce (click to enlarge).
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Seems like pretty cool stuff.
Looks like electroless nickel or nickel flash. No magic. :) Just picking the right surface finish.
Hi guys, I'm really sorry I suddenly went quiet the way I did. I got a new job (which I might have time to post about tomorrow) that has kept me quite busy alongside other aspects of my life suddenly moving at a much faster pace and this thread (and the board in general, to be honest) kind of completely slipped from my mind in all the chaos.
As for the update, the coating does look quite slick and stylish, it'll definitely show off the pinion action as the printer operates.
so have any of these shipped yet ?
The micro may be crap - but it is almost shipping and there are demo models out there.
I'm one of the super-early-bird pledges and last time they contacted me they said September. I'm actually inclined to believe them.
Their last update (last week) had some pictures from their factory in China. This one being the latest:
https://gallery.mailchimp.com/71bf71...4bf0211427.jpg
IMO, it looks like a nice assembly line, though they have a little way yet to go with it (tools, parts stock, people, etc.). The update also talks about their testing and QA line in Pasadena, but no pictures yet.
They also mention that they're reaching out to beta testers. I don't expect to be on that list, since I work for another 3D printer company (though IMO, the MOD-t and the Hyrel printers aren't really competitors, being in completely different market categories).
lol no definitely no competition between hyrel and new matter :-)
so when did you sign up for your printer ?
ie: if it is delivered in september - how long would it have taken ?
Given that new matter are one of the most proifessional looking outfits to come out of the crowdfunding 3d printer scene. Curious to know how long even the business savvy companies take to get up and running.
If everything had actually gone to their schedule, I would have gotten mine in April, so that's four months late. On the other hand, it seems like the entire country of China took a two month vacation during this year's Chinese New Year, which caused something like a traffic jam in the entire global manufacturing industry. I'm not gonna get mad at China though, they've been needing a vacation for a while.
And hey, since it is Friday, there was a new update with some bios on a few more 3D designers for the store and a picture of the first MOD-t off the actual production line.
https://gallery.mailchimp.com/71bf71...fa2a6c08ef.jpg
Don't get too excited, it still has to go through QA, calibration and probably some final software debugging.
Yeah, but look !
it printer a complete tablet computer :-)
Haha, cute. I think the implication was that it plays nice with iPads... For whatever that's worth.
seems to have gone a bit dead over new matter way.
With it's main rival - the micro - now shipping and getting good reviews, you'd think new matter would be ramping up the pr in preparation to their production start.
Weird.
Have you not been getting their weekly updates? #41 was pretty informative.
feign usually posts the updates.
Had a look on their website and that's pretty quiet as well.
Just seems like with a few months before they start shipping - and with the plethora of sub $400 machines popping up they'd be making a bit of noise in the industry in general.
Mind you when you've got that kind of crowdfunding startup - they don't need to do much marketing for a while.
Gah! Sorry! The updates keep coming but I've been much too busy to give my commentary.
Please, if there are other backers that would like to give their commentary on the updates, feel free to speak up and post about it.
I'm not even sure off the top of my head which update I commented on last time.
Yeah, update #41 had some pretty funny parts among the tech details about their stress-testing process... There's the perfect commentary for the drop test of a full unit in the shipping packaging:
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Originally Posted by New Matter
Ah, okay, the last update that I commented on was Update #38 (the one with the first pic of the first production unit).
#39 was an update about the technical details of the final hotend.
#40 was about the software side of the MOD-T and the New Matter Store.
#41 was the 1 year anniversary, the endurance testing of the motors and the drop test mentioned above.
#42 (this week's update) is one of the "Meet the designers" series.
They've been anything but quiet. :cool:
Well, I've forgot to post the update from last week, but it included their printer testing farm and their shipping plans.
This week's update has their plans for going to CE Week in New York, but more importantly preorders for non-backers open next week!
Pre-ordered printers don't ship until all of the Indiegogo printers are shipped, so there is a 16-week delay on them. So that answers one additional question pretty definitely.
Oh man, I think mine might be somewhere on that shelf... It's happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by New Matter
So are they still a few months away from backers getting their rewards?
How is this project coming along? I'd really like to buy one of these but want to see some in the hands of real people first.
yep - realisticaly you're probably looking at early 2016 until you can just order one from the site and expect to get it reasonably quickly,
And yeah i think we're all looking forward to seeing these working.
What was the last update they sent out? Like what are they doing now? Has anyone seen a video of this thing printing aside from the 2 that show up on YouTube that are like a year old?
shouldn't these things have started shipping to early adopters by now ?
That twitter post is from 2 weeks ago.
They just sent out an email claiming an unknown delay... What happened to shipping every unit by Sept 30? This is the main problem with kickstarter and indiegogo. I guess goals have no meaning anymore. This is Obama's America after all.
actually most kickstarter delays seem to be linked to the chinese factories attitude towards deadlines (they're for other people), rather than the company itself.
And if you want it cheap - you pretty much have to get it built in china.
so any more news on these machines ?
You'd have thought they'd have made an effort to get something buyable by christmas.
Check out their FB page. They are pretty close. I am an IGG supporter and just as happy to wait for them to debug the firmware and release a solid printer. I use a MBI Rep2 at work and have been following online the horror show that the fifth gen MBI's seem to be having so I am willing to wait for the thing to be mature :^).
They keep showing off retail packaging on twitter. I would have thought that they would have shipped all their Kickstarter rewards first before making it available to the public, no? It says 6 weeks delivery on the site if you go order it there.
I find this surprising because if you go on YouTube and search for "new matter mod-t" and sort by Date Uploaded, the newest video is from 3 months ago. There should be dozens of videos from backers by now...