I'm not sure but my head might be in the same place. The whole reason I think the Strooder is cool is because I have so many failed prints where I would like to throw the plastic I spent into the grinder and have it make me some new filament.
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Update #4:
Happy Early May Bank Holiday to those of you enjoying your extra day off, we've been working, but we don't mind at all as all development are on track for the launch in less than two weeks time!
The final gear box design was finalised and has been put through its final testing over the past few days:
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Moreover, and what we are most excited about is to see the casing and internals being produced, ready for full assembly:
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Any thoughts would help us a lot, so keep asking questions about Strooder and we'll try our best to answer.
When you are figuring out how to box up your components for transport, plan to sandwich your laser cut parts between two pieces of cardboard. The laser cut parts tend to separate from the board during transport, especially on long journeys to foreign countries, and the buyer opens the box to find a jig-saw puzzle. That detracts from your product's first impression.
Also, make sure that your assembly instructions are clear. Beta test them by having a novice build your product from the instructions only. Remember, a customer might be trying to assemble your product on the other side of the world, in a different time zone. Having to wait 12 hours for a response to an enquiry is frustrating.
Old Man Emu
I'm sure there are people here who would love to help you make translations, or even be your beta tester.
Personally, if there was promise of a grinder/winder, I would pay big to be your tester. If only to just have the unit to use.
It should be really easy to find someone locally to test for you.
When you decide the milestones, take into consideration the fact that there are people, like me, who probably won't back you until the grinder and winder are guaranteed.
We've just had all too many failures on the developers part in the past to be able to trust these kinds of KickStarters...
Strooder,
Is there anywhere we can register for a notification when the Kickstarter goes live?
Hi Emu,
This is great advice.
However the Strooder will actually be shipped fully assembled to avoid all these complications and ensure the end user has as little troubles as possible. This is something we have not communicated yet so thank you for reminding us to make everyone aware!
We are trying to make our instruction manual as clear as possible and will be beta testing everything before shipment.
Thanks again
Within the next week we are meeting with a big contender in the 3D printer market who we are taking Strooder to be showcased and tested.
We are also going to be locally beta testing and potentially opening up beta to the interested world. We will certainly invite you to be one of the first if this is the case.
It's one of the first things we discussed when in talks about a winder and grinder being offered as a milestone.
It has been difficult deciding what the best option is, but we feel you will be happy with the outcome which will be seen during the Kickstarer launch
If you simply head to www.omnidynamics.co.uk and scroll to the bottom, you can enter your email to sign up for a newsletter, upon which we will only update with the most importnat information about Kickstarter and its launch.
I suggest that you reconsider your plan to deliver the Strooder already assembled to foreign countries. Although the weight of the consignment will not change appreciably, the size of the box will, and that could add tens of dollars to the final cost for the buyer. I know I hate paying heaps for unused volume in packages I obtain from overseas. If your assembly instructions are clear, and you have tested them by having a complete novice assemble the thing, then you should be OK. However, Murphy's Law lets you know that there is some moron out there who will fit Tab A into Slot C with a sledgehammer, when Tab A is designed to slip easily into Slot A.
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This is an invaluable suggestion. We are 100% certain that all UK shipping of Strooder will be fully assembled. We are currently still trying to find the best shipping option for international purchases so that the shipping cost is not heaps out of your wallet. If we find that the shippment prices are too high we will ship Strooder flat packed to international buyers; it is our intention to make the whole Stooder experience as easy for every user as possible so will not do anything that would ever result in any buyer paying extortionate amounts for packaging and shipment. However, for the time being our aim is to still ship it fully assembled.
Update #6:
The filming has been completed after 2 days of madness. Over the next few days we will be working to create the final edit, which should be complete by the end of next week. The video will be showcased to a small focus group before it is submitted to Kickstarter and we may release it early for a select amount of people who are interested within this forum to gain constructive feedback straight from the users; you guys!
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It has been decided that Strooder’s default colour will be Jet black, and all Strooders on Kickstarter will be shipped in Jet black. There is however a reward pledge amount to have Strooder in any colour of your choice. All colours will be available during main release.
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Update #7:
We have new gears and a motor encoder. The gears transfer higher tourqe and the encoder is giving smoother control. Both are making the filament more consistent.
Also a big welcome to mini Strooder, the prototype keyring being perfected as we speak!
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We wanted to also say a big thanks to 3Duniverse for their article covering Strooder! If you haven't seen it check it out here: http://www.3duniverse.org/2014/05/15/strooder/
Ah so it is going to cost roughly 450 dollars?
Thats quiet a bit more than the kickstarter, wich makes me think that the retail version will be improven quiet a bit as quality goes etc?
Kinda hoped on this project to be more economical as price goes, To be something that would get more people making there own filament, If it is 450 dollars well, then it wont be that much diffrent as the others we know now.
Even tho the Strooder seems more compact and a bit more nicely to have in your room, kinda dissapointed on that side to be honest.
Just saying my opinion to help you of course. ;)
I've been a bit of a kickstarter design and technology addict for the last couple of years so I'd be more than happy to review the kickstarter video prior to launch.
Hi DrLuigi,
You're correct, when retailed Strooder will roughly cost $450. The reasons vary as to why the price level set but with everything we do we are trying to make extrusion cheaper and easier for every user. Any profit seen from Strooder is being taken to improve Strooder but it is also going to be injected into research to find the cheapest ways and sources to extrude quality and inexpensive filament. This will mean that we will be able to offer advice on how to find the best pellets, whether that be in our shop or from an external retailer. It will also mean there will be a platform to communicate with other users to share knowledge on producing various flavors and such.
Thank you for your opinion, it's deeply valued.
Update #8:
Kickstarter has been sent for approval!
It has taken many days to finalise everything but the wait should be worth it! We are expecting it to be approved by the very latest the 27th May but will be updating as soon as we find out.
We made a small teaser trailer which shows the progression Strooder has gone through. You'll be able to see the full showcase in the Kickstarter video.
Check it out!
https://vimeo.com/95998412
We are launching a filament extruder in about a month on Kickstarter. We are Open Source and would like to collaborate if possible on the Strooder. Our design is longer and has a self-winding spool. Its made to use in a lab or school, meaning you can extrude what you need, or make a full spool if you'd like. After Kickstarter orders are fulfilled, we will release the files and BOM. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...token=b04cde69
We too are hoping too supply to schools and labs and for this reason have focused on user friendliness and safety for the product.
We are also introducing an automatic winder for our project that will be attached as one of our stretch goals for our campaign this month (credit Dr luigi).
We would be interested in discussing your plans further and any potential for collaboration, please contact us as soon as possible through info@omnidynamics.co.uk so we can begin discussing this before our impending launch .
Update #9:
We have been approved by Kickstarter. Everything is in place and we are launching today (May 27th) at 18:00 GMT+1!
We want to say a massive thank you to all of you who have contributed to this thread. You have all been an incredible help and your comments and questions truly have shaped what Strooder is today. The motivation you provide as a result of your feedback really keeps our team in order and allows us to work to our full potential. So, thank you.
As a means of saying thank you, we will post a link to the Kickstarter tomorrow before it goes live so you can check it out and have a chance to hopefully grab those early birds before they run out. (Shh don't tell anyone!)
If you have any questions about the Kickstarter we will answer them both here and on Kickstarter.
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And finally, a massive thanks to 3Dprint who wrote this fantastic article on Strooder: http://3dprint.com/4445/strooder-kickstarter/
Any idea what you'll be charging for shipping to Australia?
I seriously question the profit margin claim. It really doesn't bode well for an upstart to not understand what it takes to stay in business making a product. There's a lot more to costs to produce a product than just the cost of raw materials.
Almost time, less than 30 mins and as promised the preview link so you can be notified when we launch https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...token=aa2486b3
Launch!! https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...nting-filament Ultra early birds are gone already!
You reached your goal within 11 hours!
Congrats. Hope you will make the 50,000 stretch goal... :D
So I'm confused...
As of now, the Kickstarter is at about 23,000. If I back this for the 199 tier right now, when I get mine, would I be able to break up my failed prints and recycle them? I know the bot doesn't have a grinder, but it's stated somewhere that if it would fit in the feed tube, you can recycle it. Does that currently hold true, or would that be a future development?
If that is a feature already implemented in the design, I'll back it later today. I'd rather be able to do that by hand without the grinder, than not be able to recycle at all.
Congratulations for this great achievement , I am interested in this kind of machine since I saw the lyman and others. but I'm not handy and the price of other very high speed for a lower result in your post that I can see.
Besides small footprint .
Since yesterday , I hesitate to take action to buy. initially I saw that the delivery was in September but now it's October , that's when you can expect . ;-)
At the moment we can only rely on your information this is the reason why I hang a little, because I do not want to be disappointed with my purchase .
1 / According to some articles I see as features 8 RPM , 10 RPM and even 10 to 35 RPM , there is even video on your 10 or 11 RPM .
what is the real value ? and when you say we are talking about RPM screw stepper motor because the displaced volume is not the same .
I want a machine that does not put one kilogram 10am to because I want to watch while talking about security .
2 / According to some photo here and on other articles, by the time I see an internal wooden box and when a plastic case . what it actually ?
if it's plastic I'm afraid that with time and temperature ( direct and indirect) support pin deforms .
3 / aodre I design, I'll ask for on my desk.
my wife can not say that it is not aesthetic .
Wait... What?
I pitched the idea of backing this to my school and told them one inch...
That was the deciding factor. I can't get them to agree to back this for $333 unless we can recycle our plastic.
Nobody is going to sit down and grind huge chunks of plastic into pieces that small...
@MysteryAlabaster - I'm pretty sure the .5mm is an error - just waiting for Strooder to clarify/amend.
Hey Astro,
1) We have been experimenting with different motors to achieve the best results possible however the aim is to have about 10 RMP (currently 8 RPM) top speed on the auger bit. The 35 RPM referred to the motor we used previously before it had been geared.
2) The inside mount holding components together is currently made of mild steel that is welded as stresses are great. The outside shell is currently made from plywood which is laser cut. It has been tested and exposed to high temperatures for extended periods of time to ensure safety.
3) Thank you. We worked with our designers very hard to have visually pleasing and functional product.
Our current tests were with the plastic size up to 5 mm grain size which has performed successfully. We have had positive results of extrusion up to about an inch but we are still finalising the tests to ensure best results and to make sure it doesn't affect filament consistency.
Hi,
Sorry to hear your confusion. As mentioned above, it is guaranteed that 5mm can be fed into the tube and be successfully extruded. We are continuing our testing of up to an inch and it is looking hopeful that this will be a possibility.
This is also why a grinder is a future development for Strooder so that the process time can be reduced.
Hello,
I wanted to ask if its sure it will cost 170 dollars more when selling it as retail?
Just as i am thinking to buy one, But more for in the Summer vacation personaly,
And personaly i do think that the price you've set now for your strooder is a nice point to be diffrent from others,
But if you would actualy bump the price to 450 dollars, well than your again diffrent than the normal Homebrew machine or the chinese brands.
I kinda find 450 dollars to much for a home user, as you realy wont print that much to get even profit after a year, as you would need to print roughly 25kg of plastic to get on your break even point as user.
Perhaps its something nice for stores to sell there own plastic, but for home users i would kinda advice to perhaps try to stay at your current pricepoint.
I just kinda felt to say that :P
As i kinda like the product and the work you've put into it, But its just no diffrent than we have now if you would make it 250+ dollars more expensive than a homebrew machine.